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		<title>Comment on 5.3 quake off Oregon coast by CRABBER</title>
		<link>http://www.northcoastnews.com/2010/07/28/5-3-quake-off-oregon-coast/comment-page-1/#comment-6226</link>
		<dc:creator>CRABBER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nope, but i&#039;m in ocean shores and the quake was off oregon coast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nope, but i&#8217;m in ocean shores and the quake was off oregon coast.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 5.3 quake off Oregon coast by Ricki</title>
		<link>http://www.northcoastnews.com/2010/07/28/5-3-quake-off-oregon-coast/comment-page-1/#comment-6225</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm, didn&#039;t feel a thing. Did anyone else here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm, didn&#8217;t feel a thing. Did anyone else here?</p>
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		<title>Comment on City Council pop quiz 2 by CRABBER</title>
		<link>http://www.northcoastnews.com/2010/07/26/city-council-pop-quiz-2/comment-page-1/#comment-6224</link>
		<dc:creator>CRABBER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but but but but but but but but...........sounds like a boat on duck lake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but but but but but but but but&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..sounds like a boat on duck lake.</p>
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		<title>Comment on City Council pop quiz 2 by Lorraine T.</title>
		<link>http://www.northcoastnews.com/2010/07/26/city-council-pop-quiz-2/comment-page-1/#comment-6223</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorraine T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good ideas CAC....do I hear the &#039;but&#039; chorus warming up? : )
Sometimes it can be simply a matter of too many fingers in the pie...we have an old tree that was blown down (three years ago) in a storm, right into the middle of one of our storm drain ponds in our community. Rather than having the tree guys come and cut it up and remove it, as they would have in years past, instead the county, state and EPA said &#039;No, it&#039;s a habitat for the wildlife in the area&#039; ie: Canadian geese (which they have taken out of here in traps for years because they overran us), the ducks, the Great Blue Heron (although they nested in the tree while it was standing, they have nothing to do with it now that it&#039;s fallen), etc. Sometimes we would wish that people would display something like common sense, although I know we would not be Americans if we agreed on everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good ideas CAC&#8230;.do I hear the &#8216;but&#8217; chorus warming up? : )<br />
Sometimes it can be simply a matter of too many fingers in the pie&#8230;we have an old tree that was blown down (three years ago) in a storm, right into the middle of one of our storm drain ponds in our community. Rather than having the tree guys come and cut it up and remove it, as they would have in years past, instead the county, state and EPA said &#8216;No, it&#8217;s a habitat for the wildlife in the area&#8217; ie: Canadian geese (which they have taken out of here in traps for years because they overran us), the ducks, the Great Blue Heron (although they nested in the tree while it was standing, they have nothing to do with it now that it&#8217;s fallen), etc. Sometimes we would wish that people would display something like common sense, although I know we would not be Americans if we agreed on everything.</p>
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		<title>Comment on City Council pop quiz 2 by CitizensAgainstCrime</title>
		<link>http://www.northcoastnews.com/2010/07/26/city-council-pop-quiz-2/comment-page-1/#comment-6222</link>
		<dc:creator>CitizensAgainstCrime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correct Duck Lake Guy.  We do have to find fixes.  However, the powers that be must be willing to listen to those fixes.  Insurance issues have killed the Adopt a Park program.  Roadblocks seem to be the first thing that comes to mind these days.  At council we heard that there are now 3 people to cut the weeds vs. 5.  Well, that does not mean that it does not happen.  It just means that it takes longer.  If we have 121 miles of roads and there are two sides to the roads we then have 242 miles of roadside.  We then have to divide that by 3 rather than 5 to determine how many miles each person will have to cut.  If we then figure out, without any type of work slowdown action, how many miles a day one of the people can cut.  That tells us the number of days it will take to return to cut the same roadside again.  It does not mean that we don&#039;t cut anything.  It means we take longer intervals between cuts.
If we do not have the equipment, rent it.  It is cheaper than owning it.  If nothing more, put the service out to bid.  Maybe we could eliminate those 3 jobs too.

  That is management.  Management is not excuses or ignoring the issue.
Same with cleaning the ditches. If you look at past records you will see the discussions about buying the proper equipment to clear the ditches.  If it can be purchased via a grant, great.  If it could make the job go faster and involve less labor, great.  let the machine do the work.  

Maybe the Chance A La Mer center area should be covered with the Jetty Rock.  Then they wodl not have to mow it.  Plant things that grow in rocks.  It would reflect the ocean environment we are in.  It would also save on the weekly mowing and future irrigation project.  It would also save on water, which the city must pay for.  There are some solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correct Duck Lake Guy.  We do have to find fixes.  However, the powers that be must be willing to listen to those fixes.  Insurance issues have killed the Adopt a Park program.  Roadblocks seem to be the first thing that comes to mind these days.  At council we heard that there are now 3 people to cut the weeds vs. 5.  Well, that does not mean that it does not happen.  It just means that it takes longer.  If we have 121 miles of roads and there are two sides to the roads we then have 242 miles of roadside.  We then have to divide that by 3 rather than 5 to determine how many miles each person will have to cut.  If we then figure out, without any type of work slowdown action, how many miles a day one of the people can cut.  That tells us the number of days it will take to return to cut the same roadside again.  It does not mean that we don&#8217;t cut anything.  It means we take longer intervals between cuts.<br />
If we do not have the equipment, rent it.  It is cheaper than owning it.  If nothing more, put the service out to bid.  Maybe we could eliminate those 3 jobs too.</p>
<p>  That is management.  Management is not excuses or ignoring the issue.<br />
Same with cleaning the ditches. If you look at past records you will see the discussions about buying the proper equipment to clear the ditches.  If it can be purchased via a grant, great.  If it could make the job go faster and involve less labor, great.  let the machine do the work.  </p>
<p>Maybe the Chance A La Mer center area should be covered with the Jetty Rock.  Then they wodl not have to mow it.  Plant things that grow in rocks.  It would reflect the ocean environment we are in.  It would also save on the weekly mowing and future irrigation project.  It would also save on water, which the city must pay for.  There are some solution.</p>
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		<title>Comment on City Council pop quiz 2 by Gary Iversen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Iversen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 01:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good answer , Duck Lake Guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good answer , Duck Lake Guy.</p>
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		<title>Comment on City Council pop quiz 2 by Duck_Lake_Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.northcoastnews.com/2010/07/26/city-council-pop-quiz-2/comment-page-1/#comment-6220</link>
		<dc:creator>Duck_Lake_Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that our city government has it&#039;s problems, but when you read through the chain of responses below, mine included, we as citizens have ours as well.  

As Mark and CAC elude to, you cannot ignore a percieved issue simply because it does not pertain to you.  The lake,canals, and parks are an important part of our culture and our city.  Even if the weed growth does not effect you personnaly, it does have an effect on you.  

The bottom line is this.  If we iognore issues such as the lake and canals, the water in ditches, and simply pass the blame without demanding action and without offering legitimate potential fixes, then our city government will continue to flounder and we will never be the city we want to be, which in my HHO is a tourist friendly city that has many different forms of entertainment and recreation, without obvious eye sores.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that our city government has it&#8217;s problems, but when you read through the chain of responses below, mine included, we as citizens have ours as well.  </p>
<p>As Mark and CAC elude to, you cannot ignore a percieved issue simply because it does not pertain to you.  The lake,canals, and parks are an important part of our culture and our city.  Even if the weed growth does not effect you personnaly, it does have an effect on you.  </p>
<p>The bottom line is this.  If we iognore issues such as the lake and canals, the water in ditches, and simply pass the blame without demanding action and without offering legitimate potential fixes, then our city government will continue to flounder and we will never be the city we want to be, which in my HHO is a tourist friendly city that has many different forms of entertainment and recreation, without obvious eye sores.</p>
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		<title>Comment on City Council pop quiz 2 by CRABBER</title>
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		<dc:creator>CRABBER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes to all of the below. if you own a boat pay a launch fee or even better get an os license tab for it. i have put a dam and a pump for pumping the water into barrels for reuse. non of my ditch water reaches the lake. i should get $$ for water conservation. those with ditches and lake front are double dippers. they almost have island properties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes to all of the below. if you own a boat pay a launch fee or even better get an os license tab for it. i have put a dam and a pump for pumping the water into barrels for reuse. non of my ditch water reaches the lake. i should get $$ for water conservation. those with ditches and lake front are double dippers. they almost have island properties.</p>
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		<title>Comment on City Council pop quiz 2 by CitizensAgainstCrime</title>
		<link>http://www.northcoastnews.com/2010/07/26/city-council-pop-quiz-2/comment-page-1/#comment-6217</link>
		<dc:creator>CitizensAgainstCrime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, if the lake and canal properties are charged more, then can we charge non-lake property owners and visitors a launching fee?  Also, lake and canal people have ditches too in front of many of their properties.  Should we charge the ditch properties more because they use our lakes and canals for drainage too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, if the lake and canal properties are charged more, then can we charge non-lake property owners and visitors a launching fee?  Also, lake and canal people have ditches too in front of many of their properties.  Should we charge the ditch properties more because they use our lakes and canals for drainage too?</p>
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		<title>Comment on City Council pop quiz 2 by CRABBER</title>
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		<dc:creator>CRABBER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if you live on the lake you should be taxed extra. all of &quot;your&quot; money could be used for lake maintenance. let &quot;my&quot; money take care of ditches. we should put in a very large recirculating system to take care of the flow problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you live on the lake you should be taxed extra. all of &#8220;your&#8221; money could be used for lake maintenance. let &#8220;my&#8221; money take care of ditches. we should put in a very large recirculating system to take care of the flow problem.</p>
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